Ameriška organizacija WinOut je ravnokar izgubila svojo Counter-Strike 1.6 ekipo. Po besedah organizacije se je to zgodilo zato, ker ekipa ni imela profesionalnega obnašanja, to bi pa jih lahko oslabilo v prihodnosti. V igri (in-game) je vse delovalo po načrtih, saj so zasedli prva mesta na LAN dogodkih, med drugimi tudi 16-0 zmago proti x3o. Več si preberite spodaj...

 

Izjava Douga Jacobsena:

The team was aboslutely incredible in-game, but professional gaming requires a lot more than the ability to win matches.  You need a certain marketability to obtain sponsorship and a fan base for the long term.  Sadly, this team just doesn't have the skills or the professionalism required to do so.Personally, I think it's a waste of talent.

Čepravt je Liridon ''quas'' Ademaj povedal zadeve na gotfrag temi malce drugače:

I don't know why Jacobson went this far. Our main reason for departing was the funding and what we were getting in return. Jacobson wanted us to promote his website (Which we had no problem in doing so) but for nothing in return. We received no form of compensation for any new PRO users or any features we did on the site. He wanted Blogs, Features and videos done (He pays people for this) but he would not pay us a dime. With the current economic situation I understand the penny pinching moves. Once Evolution moved to Florida, Jacobson told us that he would not be paying for his traveling fees and this did not make any sense to us. We were all local NYC players and the only major lans coming up would be the WCG Invitational (if we get invited) which is in NYC and does not cost us anything to go to and the x3o lan tournaments which we always carpool to. This is no great expense for anyone to cover and we could cover these ourselves. Other organizations started to approach us and this made Jacobson very uncomfortable and he gave us an ultimatum, "sign the contracts by this weekend or im dropping you". The contracts basically locked us up for a full year of doing his features/blogs/videos which people paid to see and we would not be paid for it. When I asked him about salary or any goals or incentives in the contract that could lead to a salary or some sort of payment he laughed at us. We would get no salary no matter how well we did and the fact that he was not willing to pay for travel fees made it very difficult to agree with him. Any money we did win would have to be split with the organization and we would have to payback any money he did give us. I told him that it didn't sound fair and we were basically paying him to use the WinOut name. We told him we would not sign the contracts unless we changed some things around and that if he was going to drop us then he should prepare a statement for Monday.

In the end I believe that Jacobson saw an opportunity to get exposure for his website and he took it. He felt that if he ever needed to drop us he would be able to without any problems, seeing as aZn had "unprofessional" issues with CGS and chE and evo with team EG and he tried to take full advantage of that.

Complexitygaming so kontaktirali Jacobsena in ga soočili z to izjavo:

Early this week the news of the squad’s departure slowly came to light and the players played as #Delta-Elite-Force in their ESEA match.  What exactly transpired that lead to the squad’s departure?  The post on your site stated professionalism was at the heart of the decision.  You stated "The team was absolutely incredible in-game, but professional gaming requires a lot more than the ability to win matches.  You need a certain marketability to obtain sponsorship and a fan base for the long term.  Sadly, this team just doesn't have the skills or the professionalism required to do so."  What happened?

Following ETS 2009, it seemed very clear what had happened.  It seemed they had used my good will to provide an upfront entry fee and hotel payments (which obviously I have proof of via PayPal) to get a free ride to the event.  There were no blogs, no pictures because a camera had coincidentally broken, and one demo from each player was uploaded (except chE).  The only person who actually did everything asked of them was Matt “Lim” Beahan, who was a stand-in for the event (and also a former teammate of mine in Confederacy).

A month later, still nothing from any of the players. I couldn’t even get an audio interview out of aZn.  When confronting Quas about the issues at hand, I was honestly hurt.  I told them that if they wanted to continue as WinOut, they would need to sign the contracts we originally agreed to.  To which he replied, “It’s just business Doug. Drop us. Wanna pug?”
 
In a GotFrag forum thread, Quas responded to the WinOut post by claiming the players were offered nothing and leveled allegations that WinOut was merely out to take advantage of them.  How do you respond to those allegations?
 
I don’t know what that means or how WinOut could use them? We were laying out cash for them to attend events.  What did they provide for us?  The team had refused to put into writing what we had discussed prior to ETS 2009, and they had suddenly felt that we were now required to buy chE a new hard drive (which I did not do), plane tickets for evolution, who they seemingly forgot to mention was moving to Florida a week after joining the organization, all after stating no travel fees would be needed for any of these local events since they were local (Oh, except for the guy who now lives in Florida.  Woops.)

Here’s the funniest part about Quas’ statements regarding the contracts.  None of them have ever even seen the actual contracts, including Quas.  How would you like things changed or modified if you have not read them?  The team was not remotely interested in even viewing them if they did not include a minimum $300 monthly player salary, with incentives leading up to $1000 monthly salaries.  Prior to ETS 2009, it was clearly stated that WinOut would only be required to provide hotel and entry fees.

Another humorous point to bring up in this situation is frequently when a new organization loses a bigger named team, you generally have accusations that the organization never reimbursed the team for things they promised.  In this case, it’s actually the exact opposite, and currently the team owes me money (which I can also prove) from the entry fee since they won the event.  They claim they will pay this back when their ETS checks come in, except evolution, who seemingly has no recollection of the event whatsoever, and “just plays cs.”


WinOut.cs so bili :

Scott "evolution" Cavallero
Kevin "aZn[st]" Wang
Liridon "quas" Ademaj
Michael "chE" Guevara
Dan "mehLer" Mehler